Just pull a Pshero and make a macro for every lobby saying something like “Hi, I will CC, just do dmg” so ppl dont put things on DR for you. 1. 1 - Havoc Demon. can be used as a defensive option. Healer will have to trinket blind, rogue duels dps. You can tank a pack safely until evasion and CoS goes down. 2845 3v3. . If you played Subtlety Rogue prior to 10. I only use one button as assa rogue got 3276 solo shuffle rating this evening. 7, also sub rogue pvp is soo funand full of action. Havoc is atm, a really well rounded spec for PvP, a bit overtuned on self healing side. Seriously, as soon as people play the spec they go wtf is this shit. Pretty much a high rated rogue can hop on mage and usually do very well. Rotation And Strategy. This guide will walk you through everything you need to know to play Subtlety Rogue in a PvP environment. Welcome to Skill Capped’s Subtlety Rogue PvP Guide for Dragonflight 10. Find healer and 1 more dps (feral druid probably) and play coordinated 3x3 with voice. Elite heroes of the Alliance and the Horde fight for glory in Arenas and Battlegrounds. The goal should be for multiple. The top 1000 players in your region are immortalized here. Got my full elite set & 2k rating today. 9-2. The entire part of the "shuffle" part of solo shuffle was because blizzard was 100% against a true "solo queue", class/comp balance would make it entirely too unfair and random, that's where shuffling the teams to makeup for class disparity comes in. Just get some practice in and have a good reason for pressing any ability with a 30+ sec cd. Both specs are comp dependent. How do you win in solo shuffle as rogue? Hello I am currently trying to get better at playing assassination rogue in solo shuffle but I feel kinda squishy, especially vs cleave comps. Let sub have burst and control but let assa and outlaw play slower. 0. Kthis-shandris July 31, 2023, 5:21pm #7. Because pvp is the best thing to enjoy in the game in my opinnion. Some classes are just more favored in solo shuffle vs others, which need more communication. Manfighting-westfall. Subcreation provides statistical analysis of Mythic+ dungeons, Raids, and PvP in World of Warcraft: Shadowlands and provides summaries of the top talents, gear, enchants, and gems used in Mythic+ and Raids. Assass is also meh cause of everyone dispelling poisons. stop looking at your cr. Yes to a degree. You also don’t always need a fireball into combustion, sometimes it better to just rip combust with a double fire blast>pyro>fire blast> pyro>PF>pyro>fire blast>pyro. So most of the BG community has been asking for a separate system to Solo Que. Most are previous elite/glad, some are duelist. In RBGs, you could look to have maybe the Rogues move up on the list as well as the Balance Druid move up on the. This Orc has notched an impressive 2v2 rating of 1896, affirming her status as a formidable PvP contender. High knowledge, low mechanical skill, low self awareness. The top 1000 players in your region are immortalized here. 7 Likes. 1887 - 2514. More from Blizzard . Fish for pistol shot procs with SS -> Pistol shot -> finisher -> Ambush proc -> Repeat until you run out of pistol shot procs, then go back to fishing for pistol shot procs, and continue the cycle. Discover the art of building a PvP Outlaw Rogue designed to excel in Solo Shuffle in World of Warcraft Dragonflight 10. General Information. Solo shuffle is killing arena. There was no comms audio on the Pika vod, so I grabbed the commentary from the main stream, will have more in game comms for day 2. Yes, rogue is one of the squishiest classes for solo PvE content and it has no real group control skills. . Yeah I’m not the best rogue but SUB has been feeling meh. One of the main reasons why Subtlety is the best Rogue spec for solo leveling is the powerful single-target damage that it offers. mmr cap low inflation is killing peoples drive to even bother queing 3s and SS even if a lot of people get “welfare glad mounts” add 400-500mmr inflation to increase player participation so the lower end of ladder can go for elite sets and the people at 2100 can go for glad mounts and 2700 achievments the ladder is in a. I thought I'd drop a new video show casing sub-rogues in solo shuffle, And let me tell you they're in a really good spot right now. r/worldofpvp •. They don’t peel, they don’t kite, they press all of their defensives. Assassin probably A tier in the solo shuffle zerg fest. It has to be faster like in season 1. 0. 1. I find it isn't brainless or difficult to play, but usually when I win at pvp it feels like the class won, not me. r/worldofpvp. Honestly I would like to play rogue, but it feels like cheating. Specs that have plenty to trade on short cooldowns do better in solo shuffle. Updated 8 hours ago , this guide distills the build of the top. This Night Elf has notched an impressive Solo Shuffle. Qdubbz • 9 mo. : It is rogue) For comparison purposes, i am a mult rank 1 player in 3v3, a mult gladiator (pre bfa, when it was %based) in a few alt classes, and i also got rank 1 in shuffle last season, so i would say i have a good experience and knowledge in this game. Nothing worse than loosing that first round and then trade the loss back and forth. All of these during a full kidney. Solo Shuffle is one of the novelties of update 9. Outlaw Rogue is not horrible, it's decent. Check-PvP, a tool to check PvP player experience. ago. spec needs a redesign and moved away from burst dam profile into something more consistent. The gameplay is smooth and your big CD is only 1. Discover the art of building a PvP Survival Hunter designed to excel in Solo Shuffle in World of Warcraft Dragonflight 10. 30% nerf to a 2 min cooldown that can be completely removed by evoker every min. 50 players Last Updated: today This page is automatically generated by looking up the top 50 Subtlety Rogue on the Solo Shuffle leaderboard. I play sub rogue and I have 54 % wr at 1770 elo. 1. Just make it solo 3v3 with 1 round It will fix the problem with people leaving out of frustration. play healer bro = insta queues. . Im not the best rogue player but been thinking of giving it a go sinse i dont have a 2s partner. Pooling Energy has been a vital part of optimal Subtlety gameplay for a long time now. Dive into World of Warcraft Dragonflight 10. Our Sub Rogue Solo Shuffle series is not just a showcase of skills; it's a celebration of the Rogue class, its versatility, and the sheer excitement of going solo in the vast world of Warcraft. They’re generally just good at popping everything and popping a target. Hello Everyone!DISCLAIMER: Im nowhere near the best sub rogue player, this is a BASIC sub rogue PvP guide, containing all the necessary information you need. For clarification, many Rank 1 players believe Sub Rogue is ACTUALLY the best spec in Solo Shuffle, but due to its relatively steep learning curve, we will be keeping it on the A tier. Im not the best rogue player but been thinking of giving it a go sinse i dont have. MMORPG. 7. Get the RATING You’ve Always Wanted: Join our Discord server: SUB. Subtlety Rogue. Updated 9 hours ago , this guide distills the build of the top 50 Outlaw Rogues. Disc saw a massive list of changes in 10. World of Warcraft. Night Elf. However, I believe learning how to play rogue effectively will transcend just the class and help you understand arena better as a whole. Death mark is still something that people do not know how to deal with, they still have the good damage, they still have like wounding poison mind numbing and they have tools to actually deal. This guide provides you with a comprehensive blueprint to create a character that can hold its own in the fierce competition. Rogue is going to lose its viability for players that arent skilled. Slapface-kazzak August 6, 2023, 4:41pm 2. Last updated November 19, 2023, 1:18 AM Pacific Standard Time. mm has great burst and can definitely work but is more reliant on a sub rogue or feral to help setup traps and stuns on kill target for your burst. Players currently on the World of Warcraft US 3v3 PvP. This is solo shuffle not ranked 3s where Assa can dominate. Imagine trying to be a sub rogue in a zug shuffle match. Setting up triple CC, or even coordinating damage with your team and CCing the healer + DPS is ludicrously difficult in solo shuffle. Updated 10 hours ago , this guide distills the build of the top. It's that good. That will get you to like 1600 (well maybe higher for melee lol). Except sub rogue and a few others that do vers/mastery. ago Ass is decent if you want but it is worse gameplay imo, sub is just not great in shuffle. Stabbingpunk-ravencrest July 15, 2023, 2:09am #1. 7 Melee DSP Tier List The changes brought by 10. I am unsure what to play with him that would help learn the game and the mechanics. Compared to demon hunters, warriors or monks who are the majority of solo shuffle players - sub rogues burst is laughable. . Man, when you play a caster and you load in and see all other 3 dps are melee, that's gonna be a rough game, you're going 2/6 at best it feels like. at a minimum they should just remove shadowy duel, that ability can’t ever be balanced properly. Feral is harder without a doubt in terms of making the best use of your toolkit. This tier list will go over the best Melee, Ranged. The true one shot rogue is venthyr sub with shadowy duel. 2 Shadowlands PVP - The Good and The Bad. As well as rogues being extremely effective at defending a base. By now, you probably know how flexible Shadowmeld is. 0. Waiting 30-40 minutes to get into a game is infuriating. Classes good at solo shuffle are designed differently. 9. 5 seconds like you see other classes do. All of my toons are beetween 1. 7. This can lead to many 2-0 just because one DPS team is straight up better than the other. Outside of this, your damage is doodoo and you’re made of paper - your control is primarily via stuns, but randomly placing people on stun DR fucks your kill windows. One of the spec main weakness (hard swaps) is made less frequent by the random nature of solo shuffle. blizzard. The biggest choice we have to make is between Elusiveness and Cheat Death. This is hands down the best race for Assassination Rogue. In the opener. The biggest choice we have to make is between Elusiveness and Cheat Death. . Follow me: Twitch: Twitter: Instagram:. Since damage reduction cooldowns are disproportionately valuable in Solo Shuffle, this was a huge change. Tmpikaboo (Tichondrius) THE MOVE - 70 Orc Subtlety Rogue, 427 ilvl. Played about 400 rounds of shuffle now as DPS (200 DH and 200 Ele shaman both 1900-2100 cr) and I have legit never seen a toxic message from another DPS player or had a dps player leave. You'll also see the choice node of Cloaked in Shadows / Fade to Nothing has. All Games . Melee are doing just as much damage as everyone else Demon hunters are doing double everyone’s damage Solo shuffle has built in MS effect Why do snowflake melees get to bring their MS effect in the arena to double dip and cheese everyone else? Bad game design Fix now. This guide provides you with a comprehensive blueprint to create a character that can hold its own in the fierce competition. regular non rated bg’s since the existence of them are never really taken seriously and are always so lopsided. I really like how solo shuffle is coming out live but it has some pretty bad problems 1st one is that all tanks seem to have replaced healers not just prot pallies which makes games pretty quick which is kinda nice. Try and break 1800, after that go for 2. Getting two resto druids in solo shuffle is awful. rogue is fine, however. do you guys enjoy the wow solo shuffle gameplay its really the only thing I actually wanna do even if there super cancer and sometimes even annoying and fumi. . 1 PvP rankings of each melee base and how tanky they are in Solo Shuffle. Is my friend right, arena forum dwellers? And would you nerf affliction warlocks? Selinti-kelthuzad July 26, 2023, 11:17pm #3. Yep, you can do an experiment. How to get 2. Elite heroes of the Alliance and the Horde fight for glory in Arenas and Battlegrounds. i compare a DH to a Mage. Our Sub Rogue Solo Shuffle series is not just a showcase of skills; it's a celebration of the Rogue class, its versatility, and the sheer excitement of going solo in the vast world of Warcraft. system (system) closed February 12, 2023, 1:37pm #5. . Assassination is good if you already have the CC from your partners. Solo Shuffle issues as a rogue. Hello Everyone!This video contains a Solo Shuffle clip from my stream which i'll be breaking down to show my own mistakes and help you n. It's an absolute treat to be able to enjoy arena without having to deal with an R/M/X team that spends 90% of each match just running away and waiting for cooldowns. 0. Scooby Doo Cleave Questions. I have built this talent tree and been trying it out in solo shuffle. For example: in a lot of caster comps as fire mage, your goal is to grind out combust and cooldowns until eventually dampening helps you get. To be, they’re. Subtlety is one of the most popular specs. 1941 - 2399. Hearthstone. vs. Subtlety Rogues are a class that will make any opponent. 2 Rogue specializations. Seemed pretty decent tbh. Sometimes there are new players and they're trying to learn, and flaming them will make them wanna quit. . Intim trap on heals, pop cds and have the rogue kidney shot go on kill target. forums. The guide will cover everything from talent choices, PvP talents, gameplay and rotation, and useful racial bonuses. The # over 1500 column is the number of players who are currently over 1500 in shuffle. Often, players tend to go into Shadow Dance without enough Energy, which makes them unable to get the maximum amount of. US Outlaw Rogue Solo Shuffle Leaderboard Showing 500 of 864 Filter Show All (or scroll down to view more) Sorting. The guide will cover everything from talent choices, PvP talents, gameplay and rotation, and useful racial bonuses. it would beat the current 40-60min i see time to time varying for 1. Ok, you get a cd and run. #wowdragonflight #dragonflight #dragonflighttierlistINSANE ASSASSINATION ROGUE BUILD SOLO SHUFFLE PVP 10. This topic was automatically closed 30 days after the last reply. 5 DRAGONFLIGHTJoin my Discord : TBC Player Dragonflight Season 1 Review. These are 1400 shitters. Sub rogue is the god of solo shuffle in patch 10. Solo shuffle is ridden with zug zug DH/fury games and rogue feels totally useless unless you're sub for the extra survivability and better burst. Sub Rogue. Nocrath-blades-edge August 6, 2023, 4:47pm 3. Lack of coordination means that people don't rotate defensives properly and with proper setup sub rogues can finish a round off by themselves. Any dps will have to pop all defensives, bubble, turtle, ect. I played 5 solo shuffles yesterday and there were 1 demo warlock, 1 feral, 1 sub rogue, 1 devastation Evoker, 1 Spriest, 6 warriors and 4 DH. Wasabicannon • 8 mo. Adding more options and a more complex talent tree was one of the best changes in dragonflight. They have no plans to exclude tanks from the mode, and most Tank specs will be considered as DPS starting on November 15th in the Dragonflight Pre-Patch. Hey guys the sub rogue would rather play RMP 😱 Reply. Solo Shuffle issues as a rogue. It's a good spec for solo shuffle at 70 because of its kit that is working with most random comps and his damage profile. • 4 days ago. Team 2 Prot Warrior Resto Druid x2 RSham FDK BM Hunter X2 Outlaw Rogue Arcane Mage. It's pretty much always vers/haste for pvp on almost every single class. Honestly I would like to play rogue, but it feels like cheating. In the past week nearly every rogue ability that was likely over tuned got slapped with a 30-40% damage nerf. Careful here, sub is only viable in a specific comps. Subtlety Rogue is a dual-wielding, leather-wearing damage specialization with a focus on providing short cycles of high damage and a major cooldown for an extended. Surviving as a sub. . 2-4 is my personal nemesis. Sub rogue is the god of solo shuffle in patch 10. Rogue is going to lose its viability for players that arent skilled. Please see the FAQ for more info, including important caveats. As Ret I’d open with hoj on the healer after the sap and wings the Dps immediately. Solo shuffle is ridden with zug zug DH/fury games and rogue feels totally useless unless you're sub for the extra survivability and better burst. •. Let me know if u guys want to see more videos like these idk if this is what you guys wanted saw the comments and saw some people saying they wanted talents. The # over 1500 column is the number of players who are currently over 1500 in shuffle. Still had fun! Sub is still nasty, I know Assassin is all the rage, But i love sub. WoW 10. The way to do that is on the opener: db dps, cheap healer, poly healer, kidney dps, (dps trinkets with combust) > resheep healer. Updated 2 hour ago , this guide distills the build of the. Put CB in a separate key bind in case u need to CB an evisc (This works in some situations where u need to finish the target but ur ST isn’t up) ^ my point entirely with. This guide provides you with a comprehensive blueprint to create a character that can hold its own in the fierce competition. Rogues have 2 Vanish, Evasion, Cloak and maybe shadowmelt - all on 2min CD. With most teams already having 2 sets of healer cooldowns to rotate through (Teams with rets have sac sanc bop loh, Teams with sps have swap grip and 200k offheal spam, Teams with warrior have double safeguard with dam reduc+ rally and banner, teams, aug with dream project aoe dispel+huge offheals+ rescue for every other go) and specs. This guide tells you everything about how to build a World of Warcraft (Dragonflight 10. . Together with their insane damage output, we think Disc rightfully deserves a spot on the highest tier. A Rogue Theorycrafter since Legion with the main focus on Subtlety. One of the big reasonings as to why Subtlety is so low down on performance is (In. I Tested The New Solo Queue in WoW 9. Solo shuffle 3s shows the class strength, not the comp strength. Access to some fantastic talents not available in the past makes. umm nah not trash, ive mainly only done them as sub running rotten danse build with thief’s bargain, veil of midnight, then bomb, duel, or disarm I swap out depending on what im playin with or against. Solo shuffle is not good for rot comps or setup comps by design. 3. So the most important thing is getting away after final reckoning for that 10 or so seconds the debuff is on you. The first solo shuffle tip for melee DPS in Dragonflight 10. . It changed a lot from the last season, secret tech one shots are viable, but inconsistent. Solo shuffle solved a lot of problems but in the process it killed (or well, it's KILLING*) 3v3 arena. Everyone waste half day playing this game and getting nothing on PvP environment. It has super high burst potential, a lot of utility, and a lot of peeling for its teammates. Subtlety is a classic Rogue Specialization. Warcraft III: Reforged. No. Subtlety has made a comeback in the Solo. EZ Games Ez life ! #soloshuffle #wow #pvp #dragonflight Join The Wanted's Army and Become part of a LEGENDARY JOURNEY : Twitch. Is easily S tier on this Dragonflight 10. They feel really common, but they do very little damage. Maximum rating reached, achievements dates, season ratios. You do have more burst damage as mm, the problem is that after your burst you can’t do a lot of damage without free casting and you lack the utility of survival. Updated 1 hour ago , this guide distills the build of the top 50 Frost Mages across the leaderboards. It’s actually simming below Outlaw overall which is really strange considering Outlaw great outperforms Sub in cleave fights. World of Warcraft Classic. Don. Solo Shuffle Rogue - Subtlety Rank Tier/Rating Player Class Specialization Faction Realm Rounds Won 1 2196 Battzii Wyrmrest Accord 224 2 2171 Ronaldinhoxx Stormrage 65 3. 0. Sub Rogue Solo Shuffle Breakdown! | Dragonflight Season 2 NatexUK 344 subscribers Subscribe 2 views 1 minute ago LONDON Hello Everyone! This video contains a Solo Shuffle clip from my stream. Assa was easier to play, but sub was already stronger at high ratings and I suspect it'll become even more popular after the assa rogue nerfs. Is sad. We decided it was time to get back on the human rogue which has been my main wow character since wotlk. 5 Season 2 Solo Shuffle PvP Tier List & Ranking. The newest arena map, "Maldraxxus Coliseum" is up on the PTR available for testing. top 100 sub rogue shuffle here - some tips that help. Now of course, I only have perception of the classes I play and some classes may be worse in solo shuffle than others (looking at you mages), but as a sin rogue solo shuffle is s game changer. Sub rogue is absolutely built for shuffle lol. 7. Solo shuffle saved WoW PvP. Thats why SS is a great concept but needs some extra tweaks. The goes are insanely deadly with a good rogue and priest. r/worldofpvp. Hell, I was even able to cap conquest/vault on 2 characters the first week despite only having max 2-3 hours a night to play (and not every night). You can argue that a more skilled player would make it work - and that's. Abilities Scale a bit - Example. . . I would play it personally, for sure, but blizz are probably afraid it will do more harm than good and would rather people wait in long queues than be tilted even moreThe best part of Solo Shuffle is the lack of Rogue/Mage/X Discussion Regardless of all of the issues with Solo Shuffle. If it’s slower people just won’t queue anymore. Sub rogue is harder than i expected it would be. Really, even that's not enough. Hell, I was even able to cap conquest/vault on 2 characters the first week despite only having max 2-3 hours a night to play (and not every night). 1k in solo shuffle? PVP Arenas. The other way around id say happens a lot less. Wouldn’t that also apply to a Rated BG solo queue? All the non-meta tanks and the “crappy” meta tanks would just get stuck at 1500. You can tank a pack safely until evasion and CoS goes down. These are the lobbies I always struggle the most in & end up going 1/5 at best , the rounds are so zug zug that I can't 'get to my kill window in time and someone usually dies before my big go comes back up , I try to peel but since everyone sits in melee. Devastation has a fun core design, but can be extremely frustrating to actually play. The starting rooms are fairly large and deep. All clips were recorded in rated SS or 2s, playing Sub Rogue. A fun round of Solo shuffle, I have not touched Rogue in a month or so. 10 reasons why no one heals in solo shuffle and why queues are so long for dps. and no, the burst itself is easy… but keep the cc chain on the healer, coming back bursting then douple sap after blind and blablabla. Thine Sub Rogue shalt take two rounds before they do anything - they will do zero damage and die immediately for the first two rounds, guaranteed . Super easy to climb!Let m. World of. The classes higher on the list will be easier to navigate due to their versatility and carry potential, and will be a safe choice going into Season 1 of Dragonflight. On my sub rogue I have a 42% win rate and I'm 1450. Sub is also extremely good at breaking a deadlock in a team fight if you utilise the. Yes, rogue is one of the squishiest classes for solo PvE content and it has no real group control skills. i heard alot of people saying its hell to climb until you get to near 2. 2v2 & Solo Shuffle Spec . Downsides to demo - there’s ramp up time and no counterspell in PvE. Just because a handful of players are making a spec work at the absolute highest rating does not mean the spec is S tier for the average player. Why am I struggling so much to climb to 1950 I get so close then drop all the way back down to 1800. by songndance. These will give you a good idea about what to expect from Subtlety Rogue in PvP in Dragonflight, its. ZweetWOW. . Oftentimes a well placed cloud at the end of the healer's CC chain is an instant win. 166. World of Warcraft PvP leaderboard talents, stats, and gear for Subtlety Rogue. I could have told you beforehand, that Assa Rogue would have been the most broken melee ingame after all patchnotes so far, just based on solo shuffle ladder representation. Hello guys, I have recently started playing rogue and although I am still very bad at it I quite enjoy the gameplay of Rogue. Any other argument is the same issues they have with shuffle. Then all you need to do is wait on DRs, smoke bomb + kidney the dps and kill them. 5, with one of the most significant being an additional charge of Pain Suppression . Played 1 Prot Pally which seemed wrong 2nd one ive noticed is that someone who gets focused usually just continues to get focused causing every team hes on to lose rounds 3rd Would. Blind after hoj. sub good with mage, assa good with lock, outlaw good with a melee. 0. Back with a video straight out of Dragonflight. Whether you like it or not, Solo Shuffle is an important part of Dragonflight and will impact balance decisions. i know im gonna get a ton of hate but i really didnt mind tanks in solo. 9 healer and check-pvp. Played 16 shuffle lobbies since the reset as MM, DH, Fury, Ret. 5 ranking without a doubt. Updated 28 minutes ago , this guide distills the build of the top 50 Outlaw Rogues. At the start of every round in the starting room, use a chat macro to tell your teammates in a polite way to not CC anything or stun anything and to just do damage. The players' ratings range from 2499. Player Leaderboards. 7. Booster+Boostee+Pug is harder for the booster to carry than Booster+Boostee or Booster+Booster+Boostee in 2v2 and 3v3 respectively. going to 0 dps after shadow dances are gone, and having to deal with immunities like. In most domination maps bases tend to be guarded by hunters so the sap nerf won't make much difference. Updated every 12 hours, our guides are committed to keeping you at. It excels in assassinating one target amongst a group but does not excel in killing a pack of 5 or 8 without a tank. Middle skill fragile ego players. 4k so far and stopped. I think I might need to practice but my damage feels underwhelming comparing to other specs in my games. Season 3. priest can chastise/fear the off-target and burst with mindgames/holy fire/smites or MC the off target. . Did a night of solo shuffle as it and finally switched to Holy. The main objective usually is to optimize in a way to maximize the amount of Shadowstrike casts while doing so but talent choices like Danse Macabre can. Slapface-kazzak August 6, 2023, 4:41pm 2. Granted they are all talents, so picking up all three at the same time is not viable. Got the jump on my opponent, blew every cooldown I had including back to back 2 shadow dances. The new map contains 3 large square pillars which are a bit further apart than a Warlock gateway. let me know what you guys think of the video do you guys want more solo shuffle videos check out my discord/build below I still need to pve for my ring/neck. Last night, I had a round where I pumped over 7mil healing just into the Sub, but be did only 1.